Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Svc? (#253)
Mike Bishop <notifications@github.com> Thu, 07 November 2019 15:23 UTC
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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Svc? (#253)
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Not exactly the place for this question. QUIC uses TLS, so you'll need a certificate to terminate a QUIC connection. If a browser implements the mechanism to upgrade http:// URLs to TLS [RFC8164], it could do the same to upgrade to QUIC; I'm not aware that any do. QUIC will not be a separate scheme. QUIC will detect all the same MitM attacks that TLS does; if you trust a malicious root cert, nothing will help you. QUIC is a transport, so it could be used for other application-level protocols in the future if those protocol mappings are defined. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/253#issuecomment-551125503
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… James Hartig
- [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Svc? (… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Lucas Pardue
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Patrick McManus
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Lucas Pardue
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Patrick McManus
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Lucas Pardue
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Patrick McManus
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… hardie
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Lucas Pardue
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Ryan Hamilton
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Ryan Hamilton
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Ryan Hamilton
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Lucas Pardue
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Ryan Hamilton
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Lucas Pardue
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Erik Nygren
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… ThomasSwindells
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… ExE Boss
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Philipp S. Tiesel
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Lucas Pardue
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Lucas Pardue
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Lucas Pardue
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Philipp S. Tiesel
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… ExE Boss
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Lucas Pardue
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… fbifido
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Lucas Pardue
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Lars Eggert
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Evgeny Vrublevsky
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… liushengqi000
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/QUIC without Alt-Sv… Lucas Pardue