Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06AF9131213 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:35:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rUcbuYScqCKI for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:35:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 398F013120E for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:35:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:35:40 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1550183740; bh=Cxglg3ufqZp5IlL1atBBOG4v+V7wdZ4lER8vUay3W2Y=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Iy5a1f82ZmNZQKvfXpC3P1ZEmm3HZSdJMmHyrMunDoRwngtVS7N21e/aRndOqp0It VVKQYtVEnKiKnGXsAH7WwzuRlv8XAtTHIxradq2Za7cT3pYfSiHoosXYqTdx3tKyPt rAPy4/CIwWS0jvwQ6WJKlelur7q9YsLeHJGqHW1c= From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Bound 0-to-1-RTT Transition (#2466) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c65ed3c35c36_4cff3f99b7ed45b4990b3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 22:35:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c65ed3c35c36_4cff3f99b7ed45b4990b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not clear what you mean by "a requirement to demonstrate that they don't apply before they can be forgotten/changed"? Do you just mean the stronger statement of checking that 0-RTT data doesn't exceed the limits? I agree that #2461 is a stronger statement, but it's also more complex to verify -- you basically have to tag the processing of every data packet that arrives in 0-RTT and apply special logic to it. It's entirely possible that we spec #2461 and people implement #2466 as a good-enough way of achieving the requirement. :-) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2466#issuecomment-463830354 ----==_mimepart_5c65ed3c35c36_4cff3f99b7ed45b4990b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm not clear what you mean by "a requirement to demonstrate that they= don't apply before they can be forgotten/changed"? Do you just mean the= stronger statement of checking that 0-RTT data doesn't exceed the limits= ? I agree that #2461 is a stronger statement, but it's als= o more complex to verify -- you basically have to tag the processing of e= very data packet that arrives in 0-RTT and apply special logic to it.

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It's entirely possible that we spec #2461 and people imp= lement #2466 as a good-enough way of achieving the requirem= ent. :-)

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