Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE for small Initial (#3292)
ianswett <notifications@github.com> Mon, 09 December 2019 16:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE for small Initial (#3292)
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ianswett commented on this pull request. LG, some comments > @@ -2486,7 +2486,16 @@ A client will always know whether the server has Handshake keys whether the client has Handshake keys. Under these circumstances, a server SHOULD send a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame in both Handshake and Initial packets to ensure that at least one of them is processable by the client. These -packets can be coalesced into a single UDP datagram (see {{packet-coalesce}}). +packets can be coalesced into a single UDP datagram; see {{packet-coalesce}}. Re-reading this paragraph I realize it needs an update for the new timing of discarding Handshake on the server side, because it means a client may want to send a CONNECTION_CLOSE in both Handshake and 1-RTT. > @@ -2486,7 +2486,16 @@ A client will always know whether the server has Handshake keys whether the client has Handshake keys. Under these circumstances, a server SHOULD send a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame in both Handshake and Initial packets to ensure that at least one of them is processable by the client. These -packets can be coalesced into a single UDP datagram (see {{packet-coalesce}}). +packets can be coalesced into a single UDP datagram; see {{packet-coalesce}}. + +A CONNECTION_CLOSE frame that is sent in an Initial packet in response to +unauthenticated information - the content of Initial or Handshake packets +primarily - might result in denial of service for a legitimate connection. QUIC +does not include defensive measures for on-path attacks during the handshake +(see {{handshake-dos}}). However, at the cost of reducing feedback about errors +for legitimate peers, some forms of denial of service can be made more difficult +for an attacker if endpoints discard illegal packets rather than terminating a Is it worth re-stating that the client address can't change during the handshake, so Initial and Handshake packets from a different address can be immediately discarded? > @@ -3476,10 +3485,12 @@ Datagrams containing Initial packets MAY exceed 1200 bytes if the client believes that the Path Maximum Transmission Unit (PMTU) supports the size that it chooses. -A server MAY send a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with error code PROTOCOL_VIOLATION in -response to an Initial packet it receives from a client if the UDP datagram is -smaller than 1200 bytes. It MUST NOT send any other frame type in response, or -otherwise behave as if any part of the offending packet was processed as valid. +A server that has no existing state for a connection MUST discard an Initial +packet that is carried in a UDP datagram that is smaller than 1200 bytes. Other +packets in the datagram SHOULD also be discarded. A server MAY send a +CONNECTION_CLOSE frame with error code PROTOCOL_VIOLATION in addition to I didn't realize we had text in here that allowed this. I think we're better off with always dropping <1200 byte packets, personally, and keeping the MUST you added above. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3292#pullrequestreview-329066507
- [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE for… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE… Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE… Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE… Jana Iyengar
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE… Jana Iyengar
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE… Jana Iyengar
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Curtail CONNECTION_CLOSE… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Define stateless CONNECT… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Define stateless CONNECT… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Define stateless CONNECT… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Define stateless CONNECT… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Define stateless CONNECT… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Define stateless CONNECT… Martin Thomson