From nobody Tue Aug 25 02:27:19 2020
Return-Path: <noreply@github.com>
X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
 by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06DFD3A0BCB
 for <quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 25 Aug 2020 02:27:19 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: 0.081
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.081 tagged_above=-999 required=5
 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1,
 DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.282,
 HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001,
 SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key)
 header.d=github.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44])
 by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
 with ESMTP id FXykc5A2l5Nx for <quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com>;
 Tue, 25 Aug 2020 02:27:17 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from out-26.smtp.github.com (out-26.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.209])
 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits))
 (No client certificate requested)
 by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6B173A08FB
 for <quic-issues@ietf.org>; Tue, 25 Aug 2020 02:27:17 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from github-lowworker-5825cd4.ac4-iad.github.net
 (github-lowworker-5825cd4.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.22.68])
 by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B415E01F3
 for <quic-issues@ietf.org>; Tue, 25 Aug 2020 02:27:16 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com;
 s=pf2014; t=1598347636;
 bh=ILwutyREbkGq5zyH2AtLjkMawSyDBp35We7cw7kWezA=;
 h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID:
 List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From;
 b=CtSNR0yC45LeDFSOZamIiNNSplonGhWRYbt/dR+IcpI0MRBHxoC4YSgTn7Xk/9S2N
 wXS/RhLrF4dyqCy+Qw3n/f/gMiaIoEvegw/Z9zgnGfJCi+835Vy1lr+R/RkRRlA8uC
 7IGKxU5PgjdijoZQRy0nQ9BtkZmlcuhU4zeqZmzM=
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 02:27:16 -0700
From: Gorry Fairhurst <notifications@github.com>
Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts
 <reply+AFTOJK4GXMZSB5HKCUXZRQ55KC5HJEVBNHHCRJGOKE@reply.github.com>
To: quicwg/base-drafts <base-drafts@noreply.github.com>
Cc: Subscribed <subscribed@noreply.github.com>
Message-ID: <quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4021/679913680@github.com>
In-Reply-To: <quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4021@github.com>
References: <quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4021@github.com>
Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Client that does not PAD does not negotiate?
 (#4021)
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary="--==_mimepart_5f44d974a360f_57f81964490ba";
 charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Precedence: list
X-GitHub-Sender: gorryfair
X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues
X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed
X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All
X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic-issues/DlglF5tBYQ-DrZQZe1Eur3TWMFQ>
X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG
 <quic-issues.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/quic-issues>,
 <mailto:quic-issues-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/quic-issues/>
List-Post: <mailto:quic-issues@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:quic-issues-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/quic-issues>,
 <mailto:quic-issues-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 09:27:19 -0000


----==_mimepart_5f44d974a360f_57f81964490ba
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

So if this confused me (a little), I am assuming it could confuse others,=
 so one way to make this clear is add a sentence (albeit a little long) a=
fter the SHOULD in section 6 that says what happens and explicitly includ=
es a forward ref to Section 14.1 i.e.=0D
=0D
AFTER THIS CURRENT TEXT:=E2=80=A8=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=80=9CThe size of the fi=
rst packet sent by a client will determine whether=E2=80=A8=C2=A0=C2=A0 a=
 server sends a Version Negotiation packet.=C2=A0 Clients that support=E2=
=80=A8=C2=A0=C2=A0 multiple QUIC versions SHOULD pad the first packet the=
y send to the=E2=80=A8=C2=A0=C2=A0 largest of the minimum packet sizes ac=
ross all versions they support.=E2=80=A8=C2=A0=C2=A0 This ensures that th=
e server responds if there is a mutually=E2=80=A8=C2=A0=C2=A0 supported v=
ersion.=E2=80=9D=E2=80=A8=0D
=0D
ADD SOMETHING LIKE:=E2=80=A8=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "If a client sends an Init=
ial packet (see section 14.1) less than the smallest allowed=E2=80=A8 pac=
ket size for the version of QUIC supported at the server =E2=80=A8(e.g., =
when this size is not permitted by the local interface), =E2=80=A8the ser=
ver would not reply with a Version Negotiation packet and the connection =
attempt will time out.=0D
=0D
=0D
=0D
-- =0D
You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D
Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D
https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4021#issuecomment-679913680=

----==_mimepart_5f44d974a360f_57f81964490ba
Content-Type: text/html;
 charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<p></p>=0D
<p>So if this confused me (a little), I am assuming it could confuse othe=
rs, so one way to make this clear is add a sentence (albeit a little long=
) after the SHOULD in section 6 that says what happens and explicitly inc=
ludes a forward ref to Section 14.1 i.e.</p>=0D
<p>AFTER THIS CURRENT TEXT:=E2=80=A8=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=80=9CThe size of the=
 first packet sent by a client will determine whether=E2=80=A8=C2=A0=C2=A0=
 a server sends a Version Negotiation packet.=C2=A0 Clients that support=E2=
=80=A8=C2=A0=C2=A0 multiple QUIC versions SHOULD pad the first packet the=
y send to the=E2=80=A8=C2=A0=C2=A0 largest of the minimum packet sizes ac=
ross all versions they support.=E2=80=A8=C2=A0=C2=A0 This ensures that th=
e server responds if there is a mutually=E2=80=A8=C2=A0=C2=A0 supported v=
ersion.=E2=80=9D=E2=80=A8</p>=0D
<p>ADD SOMETHING LIKE:=E2=80=A8=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "If a client sends an I=
nitial packet (see section 14.1) less than the smallest allowed=E2=80=A8 =
packet size for the version of QUIC supported at the server =E2=80=A8(e.g=
., when this size is not permitted by the local interface), =E2=80=A8the =
server would not reply with a Version Negotiation packet and the connecti=
on attempt will time out.</p>=0D
=0D
<p style=3D"font-size:small;-webkit-text-size-adjust:none;color:#666;">&m=
dash;<br />You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thre=
ad.<br />Reply to this email directly, <a href=3D"https://github.com/quic=
wg/base-drafts/issues/4021#issuecomment-679913680">view it on GitHub</a>,=
 or <a href=3D"https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AFTOJKYX=
VHEOYB4YFV6QXWDSCN7XJANCNFSM4QFAHQQQ">unsubscribe</a>.<img src=3D"https:/=
/github.com/notifications/beacon/AFTOJK6TLDXPPCKSDLEX3DTSCN7XJA5CNFSM4QFA=
HQQ2YY3PNVWWK3TUL52HS4DFVREXG43VMVBW63LNMVXHJKTDN5WW2ZLOORPWSZGOFCDKRUA.g=
if" height=3D"1" width=3D"1" alt=3D"" /></p>=0D
<script type=3D"application/ld+json">[=0D
{=0D
"@context": "http://schema.org",=0D
"@type": "EmailMessage",=0D
"potentialAction": {=0D
"@type": "ViewAction",=0D
"target": "https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4021#issuecomment=
-679913680",=0D
"url": "https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4021#issuecomment-67=
9913680",=0D
"name": "View Issue"=0D
},=0D
"description": "View this Issue on GitHub",=0D
"publisher": {=0D
"@type": "Organization",=0D
"name": "GitHub",=0D
"url": "https://github.com"=0D
}=0D
}=0D
]</script>=

----==_mimepart_5f44d974a360f_57f81964490ba--

