Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not change after Retry (#2878)
Mike Bishop <notifications@github.com> Mon, 09 September 2019 16:44 UTC
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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not change after Retry (#2878)
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MikeBishop commented on this pull request. > @@ -805,10 +805,12 @@ The HKDF-Expand-Label function defined in TLS 1.3 MUST be used for Initial packets even where the TLS versions offered do not include TLS 1.3. The secrets used for protecting Initial packets do not change during the -connection, even though the destination connection ID in client Initial packets -changes after receiving a Retry. A server that sends a Retry -therefore needs to either remember the original connection ID -or save the original connection ID in the Retry token. +connection, even though the destination connection ID in client Initial +packets changes after receiving a Retry. A server that sends a Retry +therefore needs to either remember the original connection ID or save +the original connection ID in the Retry token. Because the initial +connection ID is included in the server's transport parameters, the only +difference is when in the packet processing this connection ID is utilized. At the time, we were trying to avoid confusion between the _original_ DCID, which generated the keys, and the DCID in the current Initial. It was a useful distinction in the old design. With this change, I think that distinction is no longer useful. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2878#discussion_r322343677
- [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not chang… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial secrets do not c… ianswett