Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission optional in QUIC, please (#1518)
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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission optional in QUIC, please (#1518)
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I don't think the main issue is compatibility with the existing TLS implementations but rather (a) having consistency with TLS and (b) reasoning about the security properties of the protocol. From this perspective, carrying it in handshake encryption is quite bad, because it's a big change that's hard to reason about. However, even in a datagram protocol removing EOED does change those properties: EOED tells you that you will not receive messages with 0-RTT keys but with greater PNs. It's not clear if that property is important, but we should try to actually reason about it (this applies to DTLS as well, I imagine). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1518#issuecomment-417878142
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- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… ekr
- [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission optio… Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… Victor Vasiliev
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… David Benjamin
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… David Benjamin
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… ekr
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- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… Christian Huitema
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- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make EOED transmission o… Martin Thomson