Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossification (#2496)
Christian Huitema <notifications@github.com> Thu, 23 May 2019 10:57 UTC
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Thinking some more, I believe that David Benjamin's "version based" solution does not actually prevent ossification. The middle boxes will be programmed with the seeds of version 1. They will try decrypt with V1, and if the result is not "version = version 1" they will just say "this is not QUIC" or otherwise drop the packet. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2496#issuecomment-495171207
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- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Ossification (#2496) Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Ossification (#2496) Mark Nottingham
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Ossification (#2496) Philipp S. Tiesel
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Brian Trammell
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Philipp S. Tiesel
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… martinduke
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Lars Eggert
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Ryan Hamilton
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Jana Iyengar
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Mark Nottingham