Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] 5tuple routing (#3536)
Jana Iyengar <notifications@github.com> Tue, 28 April 2020 22:59 UTC
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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] 5tuple routing (#3536)
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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request. editorial suggestions > +QUIC endpoints can be deployed behind a 5-tuple based routing architecture that +delivers packets based on both the source and destination IP addresses and +ports. When routing depends on addresses that the endpoint does not control, +changes to the IP address or port of peers could result in packets being routed +to a different server. The following actions could mitigate or resolve +operational and security issues in this case: ```suggestion A server farm could be deployed behind a simple load balancer that routes packets based on source and destination IP addresses and ports. Changes to the IP address or port of a peer could result in packets being routed by the load balancer to a different server. Such a server deployment could use one of the following methods to for connection continuity when a client's address changes. ``` > @@ -1156,6 +1156,34 @@ SHOULD ignore any such packets. Servers MUST drop incoming packets under all other circumstances. +### Considerations for 5-tuple routing architectures ```suggestion ### Considerations for simple load balancers ``` > +* Endpoints can use an out-of-band mechanism to deliver packets to the correct +destination or transfer state from the original destination. ```suggestion * Servers could use an out-of-band mechanism to forward packets or connection state to the correct endpoint. ``` > +* A server can request that a connection be migrated to an address that is +unique using the preferred_address transport parameter. For example, the initial +address may route to a 5-tuple based load balancer, and the preferred address +could indicate a separate server address that does not require the use of the +client address for routing. Note that clients could choose not to use the +preferred address. ```suggestion * If the server deployment can use other non-load-balanced server IP addresses or ports than the one that the client is initiating connections on, servers could use the preferred_address transport parameter to request that clients move to these server addresses. Note that clients could choose not to use the preferred address. ``` > +If a server does not implement one of the solutions above, it SHOULD send the +disable_active_migration transport parameter to inform the client that any +address change is likely to terminate the connection. ```suggestion If a server behind such a load balancer does not implement a solution to maintain connection continuity SHOULD disallow connection migration via the disable_active_migration transport parameter. ``` > +Regardless of other mitigations, 5-tuple routing introduces new possibilities +to create a stateless reset oracle. An attacker could tweak the source address +or port of a packet to direct it to a different server and thus obtain the +stateless reset token for a connection ID. Endpoints should take additional +precautions in accordance with {{reset-oracle}}. ```suggestion Server deployments that use such load balancing might still allow for creation of a stateless reset oracle. Servers should take additional precautions in accordance with {{reset-oracle}}. ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3536#pullrequestreview-402243394
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