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martinthomson commented on this pull request.



> -received before sending a response.  After this time, implementations
-SHOULD respond to unexpected packets with a Public Reset packet.
-
-
-## Stateless Reset {#stateless-reset}
+of four ways: negotiated shutdown, idle timeout, immediate close, and a
+connection reset.
+
+
+### Negotiated Shutdown
+
+An application protocol might arrange to abandon a connection after negotiating
+a graceful shutdown.  The application protocol exchanges whatever messages that
+are needed to cause both endpoints to agree to close the connection, after which
+the connection is closed.  A negotiated shutdown might not result in exchanging
+messages that are visible to the transport.

There isn't a mechanism, but the QUIC connection goes away.

Do I need to say that explicitly?

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/721#discussion_r133100888">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -received before sending a response.  After this time, implementations
-SHOULD respond to unexpected packets with a Public Reset packet.
-
-
-## Stateless Reset {#stateless-reset}
+of four ways: negotiated shutdown, idle timeout, immediate close, and a
+connection reset.
+
+
+### Negotiated Shutdown
+
+An application protocol might arrange to abandon a connection after negotiating
+a graceful shutdown.  The application protocol exchanges whatever messages that
+are needed to cause both endpoints to agree to close the connection, after which
+the connection is closed.  A negotiated shutdown might not result in exchanging
+messages that are visible to the transport.
</pre>
<p>There isn't a mechanism, but the QUIC connection goes away.</p>
<p>Do I need to say that explicitly?</p>

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