Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Why does stateless reset have to be checked after MAC failure (#2152)
MikkelFJ <notifications@github.com> Mon, 26 August 2019 11:23 UTC
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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Why does stateless reset have to be checked after MAC failure (#2152)
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Thus, a solution to the reset problem could be to define an algorithm and share keys with the client. The problem is that the clients key must be session specific while that server cannot share its server keys, so something creative must be invented. If this is done, another latency will be added to the per packet overhead, which is also not desirable, similar to header protection. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2152#issuecomment-524822878
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