Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Added a word of caution before abandoning Initial packets (#3416)
ianswett <notifications@github.com> Wed, 05 February 2020 09:40 UTC
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ianswett commented on this pull request. > @@ -3700,7 +3700,9 @@ when it receives its first Handshake packet. Though packets might still be in flight or awaiting acknowledgment, no further Initial packets need to be exchanged beyond this point. Initial packet protection keys are discarded (see Section 4.10 of {{QUIC-TLS}}) along with any loss recovery and congestion -control state (see Sections 5.3.1.2 and 6.9 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}). +control state (see Sections 5.3.1.2 and 6.9 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}). This is safe +because of the additional safeguards against loss of Handshake packets in The reason Initial keys can be discarded is because the endpoint knows the peer has Handshake keys, so this new statement is confusing to me. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3416#pullrequestreview-353577698
- [quicwg/base-drafts] Added a word of caution. (#3… Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Added a word of caution … Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Added a word of caution … ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Added a word of caution … Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Added a word of caution … ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Added a word of caution … Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Added a word of caution … Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Added a word of caution … Martin Thomson