Return-Path: <noreply@github.com>
X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
 by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B7E127598
 for <quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 21:06:03 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -8.056
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.056 tagged_above=-999 required=5
 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-1.46, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1,
 DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404,
 HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5,
 SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key)
 header.d=github.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44])
 by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
 with ESMTP id VRCF-8gOzlfT for <quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com>;
 Sun, 16 Dec 2018 21:06:02 -0800 (PST)
Received: from out-10.smtp.github.com (out-10.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.193])
 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits))
 (No client certificate requested)
 by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B47A1200D7
 for <quic-issues@ietf.org>; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 21:06:02 -0800 (PST)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 21:05:59 -0800
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com;
 s=pf2014; t=1545023159;
 bh=oX8M/UJffobcv34hOpxO+KPGopEjtxJtYxHIeWORL5c=;
 h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID:
 List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From;
 b=uc9pgOHQXj/+C7/DjlRkXA7LgijkgKBcFA1T7+6p0JOBFbuMLtYsbKgzMYp/se9/4
 a6L+lqHir1NfoUMKLsJCfDEvI/mQ0nhRJqu9rbGmjHxfDg9/2lFuhHPc9xLoisr5gS
 fwWZZ0GiOmlJlhham+5gcBNf/Fsyfux29KCG9BQc=
From: Kazuho Oku <notifications@github.com>
Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts
 <reply+0166e4ab116c63298b909d393d055093dd3a727ff0aa3f8992cf00000001182ef0b792a169ce174bff2c@reply.github.com>
To: quicwg/base-drafts <base-drafts@noreply.github.com>
Cc: Subscribed <subscribed@noreply.github.com>
Message-ID: <quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2156/447723917@github.com>
In-Reply-To: <quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2156@github.com>
References: <quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2156@github.com>
Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] ECN not required (#2156)
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary="--==_mimepart_5c172eb74258e_34233fa01b0d45bc90795";
 charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Precedence: list
X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho
X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues
X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed
X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All
X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic-issues/PGZNwynCfDkj5T8gvIsM8L5bVkI>
X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG
 <quic-issues.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/quic-issues>,
 <mailto:quic-issues-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/quic-issues/>
List-Post: <mailto:quic-issues@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:quic-issues-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/quic-issues>,
 <mailto:quic-issues-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 05:06:04 -0000


----==_mimepart_5c172eb74258e_34233fa01b0d45bc90795
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

IIRC what @mirjak says aligns to what I remember as the outcome of Kista.

I think it makes sense to encourage receivers to send back ACK frames with ECN counters, because without that, a sender cannot use ECN.

Whether a sender should use ECN is a different issue, and for that I prefer not having a recommendation.

-- 
You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.
Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:
https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2156#issuecomment-447723917
----==_mimepart_5c172eb74258e_34233fa01b0d45bc90795
Content-Type: text/html;
 charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<p>IIRC what <a class=3D"user-mention" data-hovercard-type=3D"user" data-=
hovercard-url=3D"/hovercards?user_id=3D8420764" data-octo-click=3D"hoverc=
ard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions=3D"link_type:self" href=3D"https://g=
ithub.com/mirjak">@mirjak</a> says aligns to what I remember as the outco=
me of Kista.</p>
<p>I think it makes sense to encourage receivers to send back ACK frames =
with ECN counters, because without that, a sender cannot use ECN.</p>
<p>Whether a sender should use ECN is a different issue, and for that I p=
refer not having a recommendation.</p>

<p style=3D"font-size:small;-webkit-text-size-adjust:none;color:#666;">&m=
dash;<br />You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thre=
ad.<br />Reply to this email directly, <a href=3D"https://github.com/quic=
wg/base-drafts/issues/2156#issuecomment-447723917">view it on GitHub</a>,=
 or <a href=3D"https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AWbkqyzm=
WUuCyRAC_7ddBRtEoQPn-voqks5u5yY3gaJpZM4ZSaOH">mute the thread</a>.<img sr=
c=3D"https://github.com/notifications/beacon/AWbkq4A59oGnBSpJKIdewwY-utNL=
cEeeks5u5yY3gaJpZM4ZSaOH.gif" height=3D"1" width=3D"1" alt=3D"" /></p>
<script type=3D"application/json" data-scope=3D"inboxmarkup">{"api_versio=
n":"1.0","publisher":{"api_key":"05dde50f1d1a384dd78767c55493e4bb","name"=
:"GitHub"},"entity":{"external_key":"github/quicwg/base-drafts","title":"=
quicwg/base-drafts","subtitle":"GitHub repository","main_image_url":"http=
s://github.githubassets.com/images/email/message_cards/header.png","avata=
r_image_url":"https://github.githubassets.com/images/email/message_cards/=
avatar.png","action":{"name":"Open in GitHub","url":"https://github.com/q=
uicwg/base-drafts"}},"updates":{"snippets":[{"icon":"PERSON","message":"@=
kazuho in #2156: IIRC what @mirjak says aligns to what I remember as the =
outcome of Kista.\r\n\r\nI think it makes sense to encourage receivers to=
 send back ACK frames with ECN counters, because without that, a sender c=
annot use ECN.\r\n\r\nWhether a sender should use ECN is a different issu=
e, and for that I prefer not having a recommendation."}],"action":{"name"=
:"View Issue","url":"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2156#is=
suecomment-447723917"}}}</script>
<script type=3D"application/ld+json">[
{
"@context": "http://schema.org",
"@type": "EmailMessage",
"potentialAction": {
"@type": "ViewAction",
"target": "https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2156#issuecomment=
-447723917",
"url": "https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2156#issuecomment-44=
7723917",
"name": "View Issue"
},
"description": "View this Issue on GitHub",
"publisher": {
"@type": "Organization",
"name": "GitHub",
"url": "https://github.com"
}
}
]</script>=

----==_mimepart_5c172eb74258e_34233fa01b0d45bc90795--

