Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add text on flow control deadlocks (Issue #5001)

Lucas Pardue <notifications@github.com> Wed, 26 April 2023 01:28 UTC

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WebTransport seems like the prime target audience for the applicability draft. [Section 4.4](https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9308.html#name-flow-control-deadlocks) is titled "Flow Control Deadlocks" and is ~500 words.

So a few of questions:

1. Is the text in RFC 9308 sufficiently descriptive? (i.e., does it address the OP issue)
2. We could consider porting the text or referencing it in rfc900-bis work. However, if its current content and location is fine, can we close this?
3. There may be some interplay between streams and datagrams (not flow controlled, but competition for congestion control, which can impact flow control). Would that be in scope of this issue, or something to track separate?



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