Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] 5tuple routing (#3536)
ianswett <notifications@github.com> Thu, 26 March 2020 18:22 UTC
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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] 5tuple routing (#3536)
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@ianswett commented on this pull request. > +* If the server has another address where the 5-tuple based routers are not on- +path, the preferred_address transport parameter can communicate that address and +thus support changing client IP addresses without difficulty. + +If a server does not implement one of the solutions above, it SHOULD send the +disable_active_migration transport parameter to inform the client that any +address change is likely to terminate the connection, which can lead it to use +strategies to avoid NAT rebinding or terminate connections when its IP address +changes. + +Regardless of other mitigations, servers behind 5-tuple routing MUST do one of +the following to avoid creating a Reset Oracle ({{reset-oracle}}): + +* not send Stateless Reset under any circumstances, or +* use a different Stateless Reset Token key than other servers, or +* encode the client IP address and port in the Stateless Reset token. If using That could happen, but I expect most deployments will want to seamlessly handle NAT rebinds, so typically changing the port will not change the server. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3536#discussion_r398794593
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