Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] kDefaultInitialRtt too large (#752)
Christian Huitema <notifications@github.com> Wed, 30 August 2017 14:59 UTC
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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] kDefaultInitialRtt too large (#752)
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On 8/30/2017 6:59 AM, Ryan Hamilton wrote: > We have RTT data from Chrome which shows that the initial RTT > distribution: > > PercentileValue > 25.00% 22.58 > 50.00% 46.28 > 75.00% 88.08 > 95.00% 240.0 > 99.00% 733.9 > 99.50% 1187 > > > From this table, 100ms looks like a fine choice. 1s, on the other hand, is > more than 10x the value at the median and is larger than the RTT for > 99% of > users. As Patrick says, I think the goal of QUIC is to make the web faster > and would prefer to err on the side of faster. >From the table, 150 or 200 would be OK -- no retransmit in 90% of the cases. There is another way to view this. Currently, the spec specifies a series of retransmissions with exponential increase of the RTT: T, 2*T, 4*T, 8*T, give up after 16*T. For T at 1 sec, that means retries can take up to 30 seconds. That's way too long for many applications. For 100 ms, that's 3 seconds, which is OK-ish but still high. Of course, we have to cover the 99.5% case above. -- Christian Huitema -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/752#issuecomment-326018075
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] kDefaultInitialRtt too l… Christian Huitema
- [quicwg/base-drafts] kDefaultInitialRtt too large… Lars Eggert
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] kDefaultInitialRtt too l… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] kDefaultInitialRtt too l… Lars Eggert
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] kDefaultInitialRtt too l… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] kDefaultInitialRtt too l… Lars Eggert
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] kDefaultInitialRtt too l… Patrick McManus
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] kDefaultInitialRtt too l… Lars Eggert
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] kDefaultInitialRtt too l… Lars Eggert
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] kDefaultInitialRtt too l… Ryan Hamilton
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] kDefaultInitialRtt too l… Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] kDefaultInitialRtt too l… Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] kDefaultInitialRtt too l… janaiyengar
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] kDefaultInitialRtt too l… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] kDefaultInitialRtt too l… Lars Eggert
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] kDefaultInitialRtt too l… Lars Eggert