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Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Specify AEAD-based protection of cleartext packets (#693)

ekr <notifications@github.com> Thu, 03 August 2017 15:52 UTC

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Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2017 15:52:39 +0000
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But now this is the only thing with some special snowflake anti-injection.
I don't see how that makes things better.



On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Ryan Hamilton <notifications@github.com>
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> Agreed. Echoing the connection id seems to provide sufficient entropy to
> defend against off-path attackers.
>
> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 7:34 PM, janaiyengar <notifications@github.com>
> wrote:
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> > That was my thinking. The protection is as good as the packet encrypted
> > with the connection ID, since the information required to generate the VN
> > is the same in both cases.
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