Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835481274D0 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2018 12:51:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.456 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.456 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.456, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7r3rY3QQwKY6 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2018 12:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 356AF126CC7 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2018 12:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 12:51:44 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1537991504; bh=Q22245QVuVhGUDk7HqGijWs0JlNuZLR9aHzB5WRwbuE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YYGj1tUDQMEhAyn0Gz/39UvgzVdktQwUpPtIS92lTPdCuraot54hG8axCtcJVw0l3 lyhXxWqrnofaOOgeD0Gp9GgqcaorL0Li8CyNFRRYBWqbbX3zYSyFHsETaJdwvm+BFH KmNH4Gn5PjY/Ty+o89QhgcFgCOHkyWASHCWltEyQ= From: Alexandre Ferrieux Reply-To: quicwg/wg-materials To: quicwg/wg-materials Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/wg-materials] Update minutes.md (#77) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5babe3505a7c2_e013f83cc8d45c02502c9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ferrieux X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:51:48 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5babe3505a7c2_e013f83cc8d45c02502c9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ferrieux commented on this pull request. > @@ -39,7 +39,7 @@ Demonstration of the spin bit graph = Discussion of the graphs -- these just show the output of the spin bit m= easurement, but they don=E2=80=99t compare to any ground truth = -Orange is experimenting with three bits, but QUIC has only done privacy = analysis of the single Spin Bit. That privacy analysis was done by a desi= gn team and then accepted by the working group - the other two bits must = also be analyzed and accepted in order to go forward. = +Orange is experimenting with three bits (spin bit for RTT + two bits for= segmental loss), but QUIC has only done privacy analysis of the single S= pin Bit. That privacy analysis was done by a design team and then accepte= d by the working group - the other two bits must also be analyzed and acc= epted in order to go forward (kinda chicken-and-egg, right ?) Yes, an aside meant to convey 1% of the frustration that the remark promp= ted. Guess I have no choice. Edited out.=0D -- = You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials/pull/77#discussion_r220700589= ----==_mimepart_5babe3505a7c2_e013f83cc8d45c02502c9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@ferrieux commented on this pull request.

In interim-18-09/minutes.md:

> @@ -39,7 +39,7 @@ Demonstration of the spi=
n bit graph
 =

 Discussion of the graphs -- these just show the output of the spin bit m=
easurement, but they don=E2=80=99t compare to any ground truth
 =

-Orange is experimenting with three bits, but QUIC has only done privacy =
analysis of the single Spin Bit. That privacy analysis was done by a desi=
gn team and then accepted by the working group - the other two bits must =
also be analyzed and accepted in order to go forward. =

+Orange is experimenting with three bits (spin bit for RTT + two bits for=
 segmental loss), but QUIC has only done privacy analysis of the single S=
pin Bit. That privacy analysis was done by a design team and then accepte=
d by the working group - the other two bits must also be analyzed and acc=
epted in order to go forward (kinda chicken-and-egg, right ?)

Yes, an aside meant to convey 1% of the frustration that the remark pr= ompted. Guess I have no choice. Edited out.

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Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or = mute the thread.3D""

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