Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Connection migration should be indistinguishable from a new connection (#203)

Lars Eggert <notifications@github.com> Mon, 05 February 2018 08:13 UTC

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For MPTCP, we *had to* make a new MPTCP subflow look like a new TCP connection, because otherwise middleboxes wouldn't pass it. My guess is that we should do this for QUIC too, so that middleboxes can stay as simple as possible, i.e., don't need to distinguish between the a first and additional subflows. (Because some will get that wrong -> ossification.)

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