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Sorry if I was unclear, I meant not resetting PTO timer when the client receives an Initial packet. Assuming that the server sends only a few (most likely one), I do not think not resetting is fine.

Note that in case the server is going to send a fair number of Initial packets (e.g., post quantum) it should be sending a retry regardless of what we decide here, as relying on CC wold be better than relying on 3x limit.

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<p>Sorry if I was unclear, I meant not resetting PTO timer when the client receives an Initial packet. Assuming that the server sends only a few (most likely one), I do not think not resetting is fine.</p>
<p>Note that in case the server is going to send a fair number of Initial packets (e.g., post quantum) it should be sending a retry regardless of what we decide here, as relying on CC wold be better than relying on 3x limit.</p>

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