Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645)
Nick Banks <notifications@github.com> Thu, 23 May 2019 08:48 UTC
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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645)
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After talking to a few folks, I'm now leaning towards the following solution: Update NEW_CONN_ID frame to have two frame types (or we can add a new, separate frame) where the second frame type indicates the presence of an additional field: `RetireSequenceNumber` (we can bike shed the name). This new field indicates the sequence number of a CID that is being replaced by this new CID (which has a new sequence number too). The sender sends this frame for any/all outstanding, non-retired CIDs that is needs to replace. The receiver is expected to quickly, if not immediately respond with a RETIRE_CONN_ID for all the CIDs that the sender is replacing. Once the NEW_CONN_ID frame is ACKed the sender may drop all the retired CIDs from it's routing table after some time (3 RTT?) even if the peer hasn't retired them; OR it can send a HTTP goaway. One note on the CID flow control: Even if the maximum number of CIDs have been given to the peer, an endpoint is allowed to retire one or all of them with this NEW_CONN_ID frame, and the peer is expected to accept these new CIDs; since they are replacing the old ones. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2645#issuecomment-495126302
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- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Nick Banks
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- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Nick Banks
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- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Jana Iyengar
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Jana Iyengar
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- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Mark Nottingham
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- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Kazuho Oku
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- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Kazuho Oku
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- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Nick Banks
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- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) ianswett
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- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Nick Banks
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- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Nick Banks
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- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Eric Kinnear
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Eric Kinnear
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Eric Kinnear
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Eric Kinnear
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retire My Own CID (#2645) Martin Thomson