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Option 1 and 2 have a behavior difference with the following implication:

With option 2, a sender might mark persistent congestion with fewer PTOs than if the sender had a more accurate RTT estimate. This is arguably not a significant concern, since:
- the sender will still have sent at least two packets in that duration and marked them lost, since you need two ack-eliciting packets to be lost to declare persistent congestion; and
- the number of packets sent is also sensitive to how the application sends, and a sender cannot rely on that anyway.

Option 2 has the benefit that it is simpler to implement.

On balance, I think Option 2 is better, though it does make this a design change.

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<p>Option 1 and 2 have a behavior difference with the following implication:</p>
<p>With option 2, a sender might mark persistent congestion with fewer PTOs than if the sender had a more accurate RTT estimate. This is arguably not a significant concern, since:</p>
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<li>the sender will still have sent at least two packets in that duration and marked them lost, since you need two ack-eliciting packets to be lost to declare persistent congestion; and</li>
<li>the number of packets sent is also sensitive to how the application sends, and a sender cannot rely on that anyway.</li>
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<p>Option 2 has the benefit that it is simpler to implement.</p>
<p>On balance, I think Option 2 is better, though it does make this a design change.</p>

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