Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#2006)
Kazuho Oku <notifications@github.com> Mon, 19 November 2018 23:01 UTC
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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#2006)
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kazuho commented on this pull request. > -: The fourth bit (0x10) of byte 0 is set to 1. +: The next two bits (those with a mask of 0x18) of byte 0 are reserved. These + bits are protected using header protection (see Section 5.4 of + {{QUIC-TLS}}). The value included prior to protection MUST be set to 0. An @igorlord > The suggestion is that bits can be anything and they are AEAD protected but not masked -- just like the latency spin bit. Thank you for the clarification. I understand that. > They could be set randomly or not randomly -- up to the endpoint. That means that most endpoints will be required to set them randomly, at least initially. The issue here is that you need to randomize the bits separately, rather than just relying on header protection to randomize the bits. It is an complication. > An endpoint can already disclose any and all info to anyone without peer's consent, and these bits are by far not the most convenient mechanism for such disclosures. If that is the case, why do we need to care about the bits? If the endpoints have an easier way to expose the information, can't they just be randomized using header protection? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2006#discussion_r234814621
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… MikkelFJ
- [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#2006) Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… janaiyengar
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… David Schinazi
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- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… MikkelFJ
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- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Dmitri Tikhonov
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Dirkjan Ochtman
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First octet changes (#20… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Igor Lubashev
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Christian Huitema
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- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… MikkelFJ
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- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Dmitri Tikhonov
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Igor Lubashev
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Igor Lubashev
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Igor Lubashev
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Alexandre Ferrieux
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Igor Lubashev
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Igor Lubashev
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Igor Lubashev
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Igor Lubashev
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Igor Lubashev
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… janaiyengar
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… janaiyengar
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Igor Lubashev
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] First byte changes (#200… Martin Thomson