Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Applications need to disable or selectively reject 0-RTT (#3138)

ianswett <notifications@github.com> Thu, 24 October 2019 01:26 UTC

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ianswett commented on this pull request.

Some more comments

> @@ -1159,7 +1159,7 @@ the operations described in this section on a QUIC connection.
 When implementing the client role, applications need to be able to:
 
 - open a connection, which begins the exchange described in {{handshake}};
-- enable 0-RTT; and
+- disable or selectively reject 0-RTT; and

A client doesn't receive 0-RTT, so how would it reject it?

The way I think of it is:
"be informed when 0-RTT keys are available."
"be informed when 1-RTT keys are available."

I don't think the client application needs to know if 0-RTT is rejected or accepted, as long as the handshake succeeds?  And applications like HTTP/3 don't want to enable 0-RTT, but only send some data with 0-RTT keys.

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