Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotiation (#2133)
David Schinazi <notifications@github.com> Wed, 12 December 2018 22:15 UTC
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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotiation (#2133)
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I think this may be premature, for the same reasons as the previous proposal was. This will be useful once we start working on QUICv2, but by then odds are we will want to do version negotiation differently, for example to define how some QUICv1 features map to their QUICv2 counterparts. Once we know what that looks like, we'll be able to add you new client transport parameter as an extension. I don't think there's much value in saving one RTT between draft versions (which can be achieved via Alt-Svc) so I still think punting this to when we are closer to QUICv2 is best. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2133#issuecomment-446764639
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… Martin Thomson
- [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotiation… ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… Christopher Wood
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Simplify version negotia… Martin Thomson