Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Usage of "epoch" term (#2566)

Martin Thomson <notifications@github.com> Fri, 29 March 2019 19:13 UTC

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Hopefully there is no mention of epoch in TLS or transport. Though we use the concept in discussion as a shorthand and to help reason through the complicated key update cases we were discussing, taking the meaning from DTLS, QUIC currently doesn't have that concept. And it probably won't have to grow that concept either. 

Should this issue be used to track the lack of definition of those terms in the recovery draft?

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