Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#4059)
Martin Thomson <notifications@github.com> Thu, 10 September 2020 07:31 UTC
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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#4059)
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@martinthomson commented on this pull request. > -Coalesced packets (see {{packet-coalesce}}) mean that several packets can share -the same IP header. The ECN counts for the ECN codepoint received in the -associated IP header are incremented once for each QUIC packet, not per -enclosing IP packet or UDP datagram. +On receiving a QUIC packet with an ECT(0), ECT(1) or CE codepoint, an +ECN-enabled endpoint accesses the ECN codepoint from the enclosing IP packet and +increases the corresponding ECT(0), ECT(1), or CE count, These ECN counts are ```suggestion increases the corresponding ECT(0), ECT(1), or CE count. These ECN counts are ``` > ### ECN Counts -On receiving a QUIC packet with an ECT or CE codepoint, an ECN-enabled endpoint -that can access the ECN codepoints from the enclosing IP packet increases the -corresponding ECT(0), ECT(1), or CE count, and includes these counts in -subsequent ACK frames; see {{generating-acks}} and {{frame-ack}}. - -An IP packet that results in no QUIC packets being processed does not increase -ECN counts. A QUIC packet detected by a receiver as a duplicate does not -affect the receiver's local ECN codepoint counts; see {{security-ecn}} for -relevant security concerns. +Use of ECN requires the receiving endpoint to read the ECN codepoint from an IP This section is about feedback only, so I think that it is OK to only talk about reading the markings. > -### ECN Validation {#ecn-validation} +For example, if one each of an Initial, 0-RTT, Handshake, and 1-RTT QUIC packet That's true, except that this invalidates the other part of this paragraph... This needs more thought. > +An endpoint thus attempts to use ECN and validates this for each new connection, +when switching to a server's preferred address, and on active connection +migration to a new path. {{ecn-alg}} describes one possible algorithm. I don't want to say negotiates. And I'm not sure that we need the extreme economy you propose otherwise. > +an ACK frame. This is why ECN counts are permitted to be larger than the value +corresponding to the largest acknowledged packet number. How about: ```suggestion an ACK frame. This is why ECN counts are permitted to be larger than the total number of packets that are acknowledged. ``` I don't think we need to say "packet number space" again here. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4059#pullrequestreview-485649924
- [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#4059) Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Jana Iyengar
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Lars Eggert
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… mirjak
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Lars Eggert
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Lars Eggert
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… mirjak
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… mirjak
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… mirjak
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Lars Eggert
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… mirjak
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… mirjak
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… mirjak
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… mirjak
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… mirjak
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Jana Iyengar
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Jana Iyengar
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Jana Iyengar
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Jana Iyengar
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… mirjak
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Lars Eggert
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Gorry's ECN rewrite (#40… Jana Iyengar