Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding before receiving a packet protected with new keys (#4079)
Marten Seemann <notifications@github.com> Wed, 09 September 2020 03:20 UTC
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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding before receiving a packet protected with new keys (#4079)
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@marten-seemann commented on this pull request. > @@ -1496,10 +1496,11 @@ The endpoint that initiates a key update also updates the keys that it uses for receiving packets. These keys will be needed to process packets the peer sends after updating. -An endpoint SHOULD retain old keys so that packets sent by its peer prior to -receiving the key update can be processed. Discarding old keys too early can -cause delayed packets to be discarded. Discarding packets will be interpreted -as packet loss by the peer and could adversely affect performance. +An endpoint MUST retain old keys until it has successfully unprotected a packet +sent using the new keys. An endpoint SHOULD NOT discard old keys immediately +after unprotecting a packet sent using the new keys. Discarding old keys too +early can cause delayed packets to be discarded. Discarding packets will be +interpreted as packet loss by the peer and could adversely affect performance. So here's what happens when you initiate a key update from key phase N to N+1: You start using N+1 for encrypting packets. As it's not guaranteed that those packets are received by the peer, it's not safe to drop keys for key phase N yet. You only know that the peer received a packet protected with N+1 keys once you successfully unprotect a packet encrypted with N+1 keys (as the peer is required to update its keys immediately once it receives your N+1 packet). >From this point on, it is **safe** to drop key N. However, it's not recommended, as there might be reordering, so keeping the key for a bit longer allows you to process delayed packets. At this point, this is just a performance optimization. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4079#discussion_r485313351
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- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding be… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding be… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding be… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding be… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding be… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding be… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding be… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding be… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding be… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding be… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding be… ianswett
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