Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] PMTUD (#64)
martinduke <notifications@github.com> Tue, 13 December 2016 01:22 UTC
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> What's the benefit of relying on ICMP responses vs. doing MTU discovery at the QUIC layer ("packetization layer PMTUD" RFC 4821)?
Thanks for the reference; I had not seen that RFC.
Though ICMP messages have their disadvantages, there are four advantages over a loss-based scheme.
1) Immediate reporting of the actual PMTU, rather than a search process that is likely to undershoot the actual PMTU.
2) Precision only comes with many probes -> many losses that must be retransmitted.
3) Loss is an overloaded signal, meaning congestion or RF problems in different contexts. Therefore there is the possibility of error in interpreting a loss.
4) In many cases, detecting a loss will take much longer than an ICMP message sent from an in-path router.
Meanwhile, a MTU underestimate has not only packet overhead considerations, but also directly impacts the gross throughput possible via congestion control (which operates in multiples of the MSS).
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