Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTINGS frame (#2945)
Martin Thomson <notifications@github.com> Fri, 02 August 2019 02:34 UTC
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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTINGS frame (#2945)
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The asymmetry continues to bother me. I don't want these in the clear either. It seems like moving to transport parameters really only has the effect of forcing head-of-line blocking. I'm not that enthusiastic about that. > this means that any application that wants to use QUIC for its transport has to provide some mechanism to convey session tickets That's right. The interaction needs to be there anyway. The question is more to what extent we try to hide that interaction. The ticket elevation was mostly just a request for consideration than it was any serious suggestion. Though it does neatly address the problem of which protocols get to use 0-RTT - because only those that bother to design a mechanism get to use it. That's a neat property. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2945#issuecomment-517524656
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- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Dmitri Tikhonov
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Nick Harper
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… afrind
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Lucas Pardue
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Lucas Pardue
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Nick Harper
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Nick Harper
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Nick Harper
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Lucas Pardue
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Nick Harper
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Lucas Pardue
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Dmitri Tikhonov
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Lucas Pardue
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Nick Harper
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Jana Iyengar
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… David Benjamin
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… David Benjamin
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… David Benjamin
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Jana Iyengar
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… David Benjamin
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Nick Harper
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When to send the SETTING… Mike Bishop