Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68F9120026 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2020 06:18:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8NpdZxySGDeN for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2020 06:18:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A2EC12007C for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2020 06:18:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from github-lowworker-5825cd4.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-5825cd4.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.22.68]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712036A0C3E for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2020 06:18:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1580739499; bh=7c2f4rADPPEVJTUaaPZoLkNDOmJOt0zdFjjCuw0BvYc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=h4Q6UzDfw5h5th5UuYOBULqj4GdSVXrx5fUHg1jAUuyem1s0aDJDKxUy+zqYeFhiJ uScXXz/aFPauNrJ/IByttYwVf4mAYeE2byruxsfgSZ0rGvoClMPTHu4SIGQ7j6UOmV rE2JPrbXIutdk/lIdt+Ua/bn3qeKykAvARyIKJ74= Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2020 06:18:19 -0800 From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Padding outside QUIC packet (#3333) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5e382bab6198b_77f43fa782ecd95c63066"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2020 14:18:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5e382bab6198b_77f43fa782ecd95c63066 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I don't agree that these bytes shouldn't count for amplification control. Amplification control is about received byes, and these are bytes. Does that mean random garbage (that's not appended to a QUIC packet) is supposed to count as well? That would require implementations to do 5-tuple tracking. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3333#issuecomment-581435301 ----==_mimepart_5e382bab6198b_77f43fa782ecd95c63066 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I don't agree that these bytes shouldn't count for amplification control. Amplification control is about received byes, and these are bytes.

Does that mean random garbage (that's not appended to a QUIC packet) is supposed to count as well? That would require implementations to do 5-tuple tracking.

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