Return-Path: <noreply@github.com>
X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
 by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA7C12008D
 for <quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 23 May 2019 00:29:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -6.392
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.392 tagged_above=-999 required=5
 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1,
 DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,
 MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001,
 T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key)
 header.d=github.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44])
 by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
 with ESMTP id pdRBVbvV5i9f for <quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com>;
 Thu, 23 May 2019 00:29:00 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194])
 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits))
 (No client certificate requested)
 by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0B5B120137
 for <quic-issues@ietf.org>; Thu, 23 May 2019 00:28:59 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 00:28:58 -0700
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com;
 s=pf2014; t=1558596538;
 bh=vvWkSO8+4C4l4fGNS8vFqqyn3pENyKTgfiizUoe4Yh8=;
 h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID:
 List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From;
 b=EeyU+fOxsRNtOMUkhWTC3xo+qmEoKp8rMQG92dojkP+UB75X9/th7qI3eXI2vkVG9
 XDbUi8fF/EZhSUU0F9Huzbphpr78TyeY6ruZmRMt8Ov5ETd9O9HDLbba9UA5EfKc2E
 YNEpPb6ZQWrUJ6BeesEqx4q2P+egfvsTYHXBRmoQ=
From: Lucas Pardue <notifications@github.com>
Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts
 <reply+AFTOJK3AOVW5AEQKD367DWN26N7DVEVBNHHBVK576I@reply.github.com>
To: quicwg/base-drafts <base-drafts@noreply.github.com>
Cc: Subscribed <subscribed@noreply.github.com>
Message-ID: <quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2754/495101059@github.com>
In-Reply-To: <quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2754@github.com>
References: <quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2754@github.com>
Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Lessen the divergence from the HTTP/2
 prioritization scheme by requiring all PRIORITY frames to be sent on the
 control stream (#2754)
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary="--==_mimepart_5ce64bba7c42b_5eed3fbd12ccd968965867";
 charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Precedence: list
X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue
X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues
X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed
X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All
X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic-issues/nPGP6Pj-Rk-A1tpLSRNI0Ce2VSw>
X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG
 <quic-issues.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/quic-issues>,
 <mailto:quic-issues-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/quic-issues/>
List-Post: <mailto:quic-issues@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:quic-issues-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/quic-issues>,
 <mailto:quic-issues-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 07:29:02 -0000


----==_mimepart_5ce64bba7c42b_5eed3fbd12ccd968965867
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I just lost a morr elegant reply so this might sound curt.

The proposal seems to make tree entry operations more deterministic. However, tree management like pruning and shuffling based on stream closure seems non-determinisitc. H2 has problems in this regard already.

Some H3 implementation experience is already bringing to light designs that have two world views of stream state: one for QUIC transport and one for H3. 

-- 
You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.
Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:
https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2754#issuecomment-495101059
----==_mimepart_5ce64bba7c42b_5eed3fbd12ccd968965867
Content-Type: text/html;
 charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

<p>I just lost a morr elegant reply so this might sound curt.</p>
<p>The proposal seems to make tree entry operations more deterministic. However, tree management like pruning and shuffling based on stream closure seems non-determinisitc. H2 has problems in this regard already.</p>
<p>Some H3 implementation experience is already bringing to light designs that have two world views of stream state: one for QUIC transport and one for H3.</p>

<p style="font-size:small;-webkit-text-size-adjust:none;color:#666;">&mdash;<br />You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.<br />Reply to this email directly, <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2754?email_source=notifications&amp;email_token=AFTOJK5FZREYYZDPA2RAT6DPWZBTVA5CNFSM4HO2FJPKYY3PNVWWK3TUL52HS4DFVREXG43VMVBW63LNMVXHJKTDN5WW2ZLOORPWSZGODWBKJAY#issuecomment-495101059">view it on GitHub</a>, or <a href="https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AFTOJK7DHFT2TZD5DXVMW5TPWZBTVANCNFSM4HO2FJPA">mute the thread</a>.<img src="https://github.com/notifications/beacon/AFTOJK4YKW7XVLIIDXUCQW3PWZBTVA5CNFSM4HO2FJPKYY3PNVWWK3TUL52HS4DFVREXG43VMVBW63LNMVXHJKTDN5WW2ZLOORPWSZGODWBKJAY.gif" height="1" width="1" alt="" /></p>
<script type="application/ld+json">[
{
"@context": "http://schema.org",
"@type": "EmailMessage",
"potentialAction": {
"@type": "ViewAction",
"target": "https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2754?email_source=notifications\u0026email_token=AFTOJK5FZREYYZDPA2RAT6DPWZBTVA5CNFSM4HO2FJPKYY3PNVWWK3TUL52HS4DFVREXG43VMVBW63LNMVXHJKTDN5WW2ZLOORPWSZGODWBKJAY#issuecomment-495101059",
"url": "https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2754?email_source=notifications\u0026email_token=AFTOJK5FZREYYZDPA2RAT6DPWZBTVA5CNFSM4HO2FJPKYY3PNVWWK3TUL52HS4DFVREXG43VMVBW63LNMVXHJKTDN5WW2ZLOORPWSZGODWBKJAY#issuecomment-495101059",
"name": "View Issue"
},
"description": "View this Issue on GitHub",
"publisher": {
"@type": "Organization",
"name": "GitHub",
"url": "https://github.com"
}
}
]</script>
----==_mimepart_5ce64bba7c42b_5eed3fbd12ccd968965867--

