Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossification (#2496)
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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossification (#2496)
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I am trying to summarize the set of version obfuscation proposals. I believe we have: 1) Natural versions. Just define a version 2, maybe 1bis, very quickly, and actually use version negotiation. 2) Server specific version aliases,as specified in #2573 3) Version based obfuscation and trial decryption, as proposed by David Benjamin and explained on this thread 4) Introduce a "QUIC Version" TLS extension, sent either in the clear or passed as an encrypted extension to the ESNI content. There are pros and cons to each of those: proposal | Pros | Cons --- | --- | --- Natural version | Very little code required | Still risk of ossification Server defined aliases | Robust prevention | Does not protect 1st packet; Requires caching code; May enable tracing Version based obfuscation | Robust prevention | Requires trial decryption TLS extension | Can be encrypted | Requires ESNI -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2496#issuecomment-495159944
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- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Brian Trammell
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Philipp S. Tiesel
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… martinduke
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Lars Eggert
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Ryan Hamilton
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Jana Iyengar
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Version Ossificatio… Mark Nottingham