Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding before receiving a packet protected with new keys (#4079)
Kazuho Oku <notifications@github.com> Tue, 08 September 2020 22:45 UTC
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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding before receiving a packet protected with new keys (#4079)
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@kazuho commented on this pull request. > @@ -1496,10 +1496,11 @@ The endpoint that initiates a key update also updates the keys that it uses for receiving packets. These keys will be needed to process packets the peer sends after updating. -An endpoint SHOULD retain old keys so that packets sent by its peer prior to -receiving the key update can be processed. Discarding old keys too early can -cause delayed packets to be discarded. Discarding packets will be interpreted -as packet loss by the peer and could adversely affect performance. +An endpoint MUST retain old keys until it has successfully unprotected a packet +sent using the new keys. An endpoint SHOULD NOT discard old keys immediately +after unprotecting a packet sent using the new keys. Discarding old keys too +early can cause delayed packets to be discarded. Discarding packets will be +interpreted as packet loss by the peer and could adversely affect performance. I'm not sure if I agree. As @marten-seemann points out, an endpoint that only receives data (but does not send any) might decide to do a key update. If that endpoint drops the old receive key before any of the packets _it_ sent reaches the peer, the connection will be stuck. That is because all the ack-eliciting packets involved will be the ones that are sent by the peer using the old key, which the endpoint has dropped that key. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4079#discussion_r485235463
- [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding before… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding be… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding be… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding be… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding be… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding be… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding be… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding be… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding be… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding be… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding be… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding be… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding be… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding be… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] forbid key discarding be… Martin Thomson