Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify path validation and connection migration (#4102)
Jana Iyengar <notifications@github.com> Tue, 22 September 2020 22:02 UTC
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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request. A few comments, but pretty close. > Path validation tests that packets sent on a path to a peer are received by that peer. Path validation is used to ensure that packets received from a migrating peer do not carry a spoofed source address. Path validation does not validate that a peer can send in the return direction. -The peer performs independent validation of the return path. +Acknowledgments cannot be used for path validation as they contain insufficient ```suggestion Acknowledgments cannot be used for return path validation as they contain insufficient ``` > @@ -2152,35 +2155,44 @@ receive packets without first having sent a packet on that path. Effective NAT traversal needs additional synchronization mechanisms that are not provided here. -An endpoint MAY include PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE frames that are used -for path validation with other frames. In particular, an endpoint can pad a -packet carrying a PATH_CHALLENGE for Path Maximum Transfer Unit (PMTU) -discovery (see {{pmtud}}), or an endpoint can include a PATH_RESPONSE with its -own PATH_CHALLENGE. +An endpoint MAY include other frames with the PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE +frames used for path validation. In particular, an endpoint can include +PADDING with a PATH_CHALLENGE for Path Maximum Transfer Unit (PMTU) discovery ```suggestion PADDING frames with a PATH_CHALLENGE frame for Path Maximum Transfer Unit (PMTU) discovery ``` > +(see {{pmtud}}); it can also include a PATH_CHALLENGE with its own +PATH_RESPONSE. ```suggestion (see {{pmtud}}); it can also include a PATH_CHALLENGE frame with its own PATH_RESPONSE frame. ``` > +An endpoint uses a new connection ID for probes sent from a new local address +(See {{migration-linkability}}). So when probing a new path, an endpoint ```suggestion An endpoint uses a new connection ID for probes sent from a new local address; see {{migration-linkability}}. When probing a new path, an endpoint ``` > +An endpoint can choose to simultaneously probe multiple paths. The number +of simultaneous paths used for probes is limited by the number of extra +Connection IDs its peer has previously supplied, since each new local address ```suggestion connection IDs its peer has previously supplied, since each new local address ``` > +An endpoint can choose to simultaneously probe multiple paths. The number +of simultaneous paths used for probes is limited by the number of extra +Connection IDs its peer has previously supplied, since each new local address +used for a probe requires a previously unused Connection ID. ```suggestion used for a probe requires a previously unused connection ID. ``` > To initiate path validation, an endpoint sends a PATH_CHALLENGE frame containing an unpredictable payload on the path to be validated. An endpoint MAY send multiple PATH_CHALLENGE frames to guard against packet loss. However, an endpoint SHOULD NOT send multiple PATH_CHALLENGE frames in a -single packet. An endpoint SHOULD NOT send a PATH_CHALLENGE more frequently -than it would an Initial packet, ensuring that connection migration is no more -load on a new path than establishing a new connection. +single packet. + +An endpoint SHOULD NOT probe a new path with packets containing a +PATH_CHALLENGE more frequently than it would send an Initial packet. This ```suggestion PATH_CHALLENGE frame more frequently than it would send an Initial packet. This ``` > To initiate path validation, an endpoint sends a PATH_CHALLENGE frame containing an unpredictable payload on the path to be validated. An endpoint MAY send multiple PATH_CHALLENGE frames to guard against packet loss. However, an endpoint SHOULD NOT send multiple PATH_CHALLENGE frames in a -single packet. An endpoint SHOULD NOT send a PATH_CHALLENGE more frequently -than it would an Initial packet, ensuring that connection migration is no more -load on a new path than establishing a new connection. +single packet. + +An endpoint SHOULD NOT probe a new path with packets containing a +PATH_CHALLENGE more frequently than it would send an Initial packet. This +ensures connection migration is no more load on a new path than establishing a ```suggestion ensures that connection migration is no more load on a new path than establishing a ``` > to the new peer address and MUST initiate path validation ({{migrate-validate}}) -to verify the peer's ownership of the unvalidated address. +to verify the peer's ownership of the address if it has not already. ```suggestion to verify the peer's ownership of the address if validation is not already underway. ``` > -An endpoint uses a new connection ID for probes sent from a new local address; -see {{migration-linkability}} for further discussion. An endpoint that uses -a new local address needs to ensure that at least one new connection ID is -available at the peer. That can be achieved by including a NEW_CONNECTION_ID -frame in the probe. Removing this is fine now I think. > @@ -2314,33 +2320,31 @@ Therefore, a migrating endpoint can send to its peer knowing that the peer is willing to receive at the peer's current address. Thus an endpoint can migrate to a new local address without first validating the peer's address. +To establish reachability on the new path, an endpoint initiates path +validation ({{migrate-validate}}) on the new path. An endpoint MAY defer path +validation until after a peer sends the next non-probing frame to its new +address. This is fine, it's just moving text around. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4102#pullrequestreview-493873573
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