Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Integrate QUIC text from DPLPMTUD (#3693)

Martin Thomson <notifications@github.com> Tue, 26 May 2020 23:57 UTC

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@martinthomson commented on this pull request.



> +state when the QUIC connection handshake has been completed and
+the endpoint has established a 1-RTT key.

I think that the intent of the text is fine, I was only concerned about the execution, purely from a logical standpoint.  That is, `(handshake complete) && (got 1-RTT keys) == (handshake complete)` because `(got 1-RTT keys)` is a precondition for `(handshake complete)`.

As you both say, there are concerns with probing before this point.  Maybe you can, and indeed it is probably beneficial.  But maybe it is also risky, and we don't need that.  If anyone does want to probe before this point, they are off the books for now.  If anyone wants to explicitly allow that in the draft, that's a design change that needs support, justification, and a separate issue to track.  I don't think we can do that as part of this change.

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