Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Required state for retaining unacked RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames is unbound (#3509)

Kazuho Oku <notifications@github.com> Tue, 10 March 2020 23:18 UTC

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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Required state for retaining unacked RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames is unbound (#3509)
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To address the issue, I think we need to do one of the following:
* State that the attack exists, and that QUIC stacks should implement mitigations.
* Introduce MAX_CONNECTION_IDS frame. The reason we do not have similar issue in stream concurrency control is because the credit is controlled by MAX_STREAMS frames, rather than using FIN (or reset) as an implicit signal to indicate availability of new credit. We could do the same for connection IDs.

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