Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Key Update (#2237)
Marten Seemann <notifications@github.com> Fri, 21 December 2018 02:32 UTC
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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Key Update (#2237)
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marten-seemann commented on this pull request. I agree with @ekr. At least in my implementation, the coupling between acknowledgements and key management would create *a lot* of additional complexity. I proposed a different solution in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2214#issuecomment-449219993. > + +Endpoints maintain separate read and write secrets for packet protection. An +endpoint initiates a key update by updating its packet protection write secret +and using that to protect new packets. The endpoint creates a new write secret +from the existing write secret as performed in Section 7.2 of {{!TLS13}}. This +uses the KDF function provided by TLS with a label of "quic ku". The +corresponding key and IV are created from that secret as defined in +{{protection-keys}}. The header protection key is not updated. + +The endpoint uses the key and IV to protect all subsequent packets, and inverts +the value of the KEY_PHASE bit to signal the change of keys. + +An endpoint MUST NOT initiate more than one key update at a time. A new key +cannot be used until the endpoint has received an acknowledgment for a packet it +sends with the new keys. An endpoint that receives a packet protected with old +keys that includes an acknowledgement for a packet protected with newer keys MAY I don't understand this error condition. Are you implying that key updates effectively create separate packet number spaces, and ACKs are only valid for the space that they're sent with? I know that there was a lot of discussion about which packets to include in an ACK frame, but as a high-level strategy it should be allowed to include all packets received within the last one to two RTTs. This would lead to ACK frames that span multiple key phases. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2237#pullrequestreview-187252610
- [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Key Update (#2237) Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Key Update (#2237) ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Key Update (#2237) Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Key Update (#2237) Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Key Update (#2237) Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Key Update (#2237) Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Key Update (#2237) Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Key Update (#2237) Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Key Update (#2237) Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Key Update (#2237) Marten Seemann
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- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Key Update (#2237) Martin Thomson
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- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Key Update (#2237) Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Key Update (#2237) Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Key Update (#2237) Martin Thomson
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