Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Complete version negotiation failure (#1917)
MikkelFJ <notifications@github.com> Wed, 07 November 2018 10:33 UTC
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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Complete version negotiation failure (#1917)
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@igorlord There are definitely many more scenarios better handled in v2 or which are not practical to defend against at all without out of band knowledge such as signatures of some sort. As to a VN with initial version, the draft already says: > A client MUST ignore a Version Negotiation packet that lists the client’s chosen version. However "waiting a little" will give a valid packet a fighting chance against subversive attackers that wish to remain undetected. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1917#issuecomment-436579373
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Complete version negotia… MikkelFJ
- [quicwg/base-drafts] Complete version negotiation… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Complete version negotia… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Complete version negotia… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Complete version negotia… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Complete version negotia… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Complete version negotia… Igor Lubashev
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Complete version negotia… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Complete version negotia… Igor Lubashev
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Complete version negotia… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Complete version negotia… Igor Lubashev
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Complete version negotia… Martin Thomson