Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Implicitly opened streams add complexity (#896)

janaiyengar <notifications@github.com> Sat, 11 November 2017 10:44 UTC

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I agree with @igorlord 's formulation. We can require a sender to open streams in order, without requiring an explicit state at the receiver.

I think the question of whether a server can send on a stream that it assumes is open is a separable one, and doesn't require us documenting implicit open.

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