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Re: HTTP Delays

Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> Mon, 11 January 2021 21:04 UTC

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From: Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 13:03:50 -0800
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Subject: Re: HTTP Delays
To: Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
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Hi Martin,

The easiest way to handle this would be to have those included in the
downref registry.  That would allow the documents to proceed with a
reference to the drafts, rather than the final RFCs.  If the ADs are
confident that the -chache and -semantics will not change the elements that
are referenced by QUIC, then a second last call that highlights that point
(and basically nothing else) will unstick this.

As someone has been waiting for cluster 238 for quite a while now, I am a
big fan of not trying to wait until everything can go lockstep.  The
benefits have definitely not outweighed the costs for C238, and I don't
think they would here.  Downref it and go on with publication.

Just my opinion, of course.

regards,

Ted

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 12:57 PM Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I was disappointed to realize that quic-http has two normative references
> (httpbis-cache and https-semantics) that are not even in WGLC.
>
> This suggests that there will be significant delay (best case, months)
> between QUIC and HTTP/3 finalizing as RFCs.
>
> How are we to handle deployment of this? Will there be endpoints operating
> QUICv1 with h3-29 or h3-32? Or have the chairs cooked up a maneuver to
> avoid this problem?
>
> Martin
>

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