Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WGLC review of draft-ietf-quic-recovery-29

[Spencer Dawkins at IETF <[e-mail]>]

Hi, Ian,

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 2:22 PM Ian Swett <ianswett=
[e-mail]> wrote:

> Thanks for the comments, I filed #3918
> <https://github..com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3918> and #3919
> <https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3919>
>
> For my background, are you aware other transport RFCs have normative
> statements that only apply to the public internet?
>

Tunnels are transport, right? :-)

The earliest RFC I was involved with, that made distinctions about what you
can get away with on the public internet versus in a managed network, was
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7510#section-5. This was negotiated after a
fairly vigorous back-and-forth between transport people and non-transport
people during IETF Last Call.

We put together a design team with a few people to try to work through this
for the myriad other protocols that people wanted to tunnel over UDP, once
and for all.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8084 was published as a BCP.

I may be forgetting other stuff, of course.

Best,

Spencer


> Also, if you're that well buffered and the bursts are that large, do you
> still start with IW10, or do you start with a larger window?
>
> Thanks, Ian
>
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