Re: Structuring the BKK spin bit discussion

"Brian Trammell (IETF)" <ietf@trammell.ch> Wed, 31 October 2018 08:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: Structuring the BKK spin bit discussion
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 09:51:18 +0100
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Greetings, all,

I've merged Christian's PR #1931 which covers discretionary spin, and my PR #1937 which covers negotiated spin, into draft-ietf-quic-spin-exp. For those of you who'd like text in a draft to accompany this discussion, have a look at the editor's copy:

https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-spin-exp.html

Note that the document has two different suggestions as to what endpoints should do with the spin bit when not spinning it: either pin it to 0, or select a random value per CID. Picking one is a detail question. IMO, either is fine; the latter has a (probably negligible) greasing effect.

Cheers,

Brian



> On 30 Oct 2018, at 18:55, Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>; wrote:
> 
> Brian, (and Martin),
> 
> I like this structuring of the discussion, and I think it'll be good to use this structure for the discussion in BKK.
> 
> - jana
> 
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 6:37 AM Brian Trammell (IETF) <ietf@trammell.ch>; wrote:
> hi Marcus, all,
> 
> So let me step back a bit and suggest a starting point (borrowing heavily from MT in an offlist discussion) for discussing what we want to do in BKK. (Or rather, I should say, let me suggest a starting point for y'all to discuss, because I doubt I'll be in a position to join remotely at 03:00 next Wednesday local time. Have fun! :)