From nobody Wed Mar 31 11:11:28 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F453A30B9 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 11:11:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.096 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.096 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W_1t97Ys0yPV for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 11:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pj1-x1032.google.com (mail-pj1-x1032.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1032]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AAE6A3A30DB for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 11:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pj1-x1032.google.com with SMTP id bt4so9921541pjb.5 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 11:11:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=r/2Bf8HWRwlyqWMT3i0eJDAlp7Ow48xONOM6AMbREs4=; b=QqPE2ZUvvnVpeIln9H/yjO8qyxDm7ncLzExhGgH2586eBqay1D2AOpb69HgLBW1Ncq iM6N/3muL2xXLvk6/lHr2cllirzsPutVY3pkhGSxPqNTadbnTb2sTaP8ch0qfDYs6ksi ja+VFeid9M6LfRtreyzW5xTBMdFVYuKjo6z9/wg+JJSoOuzDkm5+islDc2L1MBi7lIIV a7K77vsu2jZWWP1LwzT9QI5qboZwB8TsrjSy0+XVjWhqin1eqWwYjDha7MucoZPmFpVs T+7Bs5xS9VTmR+DsIiyaP0OM4V4OeVbMkAQzBjSTwY1S2kqiq8pkUsQuny3p9m79j2jh KtQw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=r/2Bf8HWRwlyqWMT3i0eJDAlp7Ow48xONOM6AMbREs4=; b=fCmOSdPBN7jMh+CFaq/b/xgwaulMYK6O/TDRONHJ/lS8glO3L3Em1fH+Obmym7AQ6O cYjssjPTva3bInAxsvwDaWOYNrXwqr0fxj/L4/urx2NLxvpSp/9BVDPxwkxh4/Vyyezr So3Ur5f/Hvxga5czyhT1Rw2Gm3MJFx24QVmt0Qgx0cNWHFm/jAz/xOQ4cyR4CMLybn9f RiYEWNBcH5b0hR8EHuTYbaRP5Tw8TzYvUVyPpQqRTLIBvVMGGMtNdht72khz14qWe1h5 0K5m8twr7fEyX2rtQiDKicwhInb+JCbSs+T386pSQtejatcb0tubbSrJjKdcnLGvf7mv Abgg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530JtAxwuz9mDXWJYd5isaxKl9D3NU7dlkAWeixh8xZgGJ8BFTbf pVW6BfAlsEs1ilkJMdQfcziUyiwqjDrjumgtPCwWFfWQ X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwHC5nQKgIeHSfjlb1sFY3HjxMseayJN7EIZQnOMcQcXOjiJjzQpgGw/5Co68fFjQ+N4pXJm/+nLJala3LOOGA= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:d304:b029:e6:bab4:8df3 with SMTP id b4-20020a170902d304b02900e6bab48df3mr4241695plc.5.1617214265714; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 11:11:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <78F4D98A-4BEA-4EE4-9C7B-40F9E59ED807@fb.com> In-Reply-To: <78F4D98A-4BEA-4EE4-9C7B-40F9E59ED807@fb.com> From: David Schinazi Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 11:10:54 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Call for adoption QUIC: QUIC bit grease To: IETF QUIC WG Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d56e2c05bed9095f" Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Main mailing list of the IETF QUIC working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 18:11:26 -0000 --000000000000d56e2c05bed9095f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Google won't be able to deploy this server-side until we drop support for some older Google QUIC versions, but I still support adoption. David On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:55 AM Roberto Peon wrote: > Strongly agreed that adoption is the path that makes sense. > -=3DR > > =EF=BB=BFOn 3/30/21, 8:19 PM, "QUIC on behalf of Sean Turner" < > quic-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of sean@sn3rd.com> wrote: > > I am a fan of grease. Let=E2=80=99s adopt it. > > spt > > > On Mar 30, 2021, at 15:41, Matt Joras wrote: > > > > Hello all, > > > > As with the other mail we are looking at moving candidates for > > adoption forward. It is the opinion of the chairs that the QUIC bit > > grease draft[1] has sufficient interest from and relevance to the W= G > > to be formally adopted. This email is the call to do so. There are > > already several interoperating implementations of the current draft= . > > Please reply to this email with any comments, the call will run > > through April 6th. > > > > Thanks, > > QUIC Chairs > > > > [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-thomson-quic-bit-grease/ > > > > > --000000000000d56e2c05bed9095f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Google won't be able to deploy this server-side until = we drop support for some older Google QUIC versions, but I still support ad= option.

David

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On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:55 AM Robe= rto Peon <fenix=3D40fb.com@dm= arc.ietf.org> wrote:
Strongly agreed that adoption is the path that makes sense.
-=3DR

=EF=BB=BFOn 3/30/21, 8:19 PM, "QUIC on behalf of Sean Turner" <= ;quic-bounces@ie= tf.org on behalf of sean@sn3rd.com> wrote:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I am a fan of grease. Let=E2=80=99s adopt it.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 spt

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > On Mar 30, 2021, at 15:41, Matt Joras <matt.joras@gmail.com> wr= ote:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Hello all,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > As with the other mail we are looking at moving candidat= es for
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > adoption forward. It is the opinion of the chairs that t= he QUIC bit
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > grease draft[1] has sufficient interest from and relevan= ce to the WG
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > to be formally adopted. This email is the call to do so.= There are
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > already several interoperating implementations of the cu= rrent draft.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Please reply to this email with any comments, the call w= ill run
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > through April 6th.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Thanks,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > QUIC Chairs
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > [1] https://datatr= acker.ietf.org/doc/draft-thomson-quic-bit-grease/
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 >


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