Re: Consensus call for Version Negotiation issue #43

Roberto Peon <fenix@fb.com> Thu, 29 July 2021 21:12 UTC

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From: Roberto Peon <fenix@fb.com>
To: Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com>, QUIC WG <quic@ietf.org>
CC: QUIC WG Chairs <quic-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: Consensus call for Version Negotiation issue #43
Thread-Topic: Consensus call for Version Negotiation issue #43
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The decision works for me. Supported.
-=R

From: QUIC <quic-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 2:05 PM
To: QUIC WG <quic@ietf.org>
Cc: QUIC WG Chairs <quic-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: Consensus call for Version Negotiation issue #43

Hello QUIC WG,

During the IETF 111 meeting discussion of draft-ietf-quic-version-negotiation we touched on issue #43 "Should the client communicate version preference ordering?" [1].

The feeling in the room tended towards loose agreement on keeping the preference ordering text in the document. Therefore, keeping the text is the proposed resolution.
This email seeks to establish consensus for the proposed resolution. If you have comments for or against, please respond on the issue. The call will run until EoD August 6 2021.
Best Regards
Matt & Lucas
QUIC WG Chairs

[1] - https://github.com/quicwg/version-negotiation/issues/43