RE: Packet number encryption

Praveen Balasubramanian <pravb@microsoft.com> Fri, 09 February 2018 17:15 UTC

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From: Praveen Balasubramanian <pravb@microsoft.com>
To: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>, Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen <mikkelfj@gmail.com>, Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>, "quic@ietf.org" <quic@ietf.org>, huitema <huitema@huitema.net>
Subject: RE: Packet number encryption
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No I don’t want it in the clear. The proposal is to put PN in encrypted header and use a separate nonce field in the clear. Please ignore the whole obfuscation discussion for now, that was an attempt to produce a transform cheaper than crypto and doesn’t seem to be going anywhere.

From: Salz, Rich [mailto:rsalz@akamai.com]
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 4:54 AM
To: Praveen Balasubramanian <pravb@microsoft.com>; Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen <mikkelfj@gmail.com>; Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>; quic@ietf.org; huitema <huitema@huitema.net>
Subject: Re: Packet number encryption

Can you please explain why you want the packet number in the clear?  Or post a link to the email archive if you’ve already done so.  Because, to my casual observer viewpoint, you are trying fairly hard to do this, including some tortured/questionable crypto; so, why?