RE: draft-ietf-quic-http-29, "1.1. Prior versions of HTTP"

Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be> Fri, 12 June 2020 15:55 UTC

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From: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
To: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, Robin MARX <robin.marx@uhasselt.be>
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Subject: RE: draft-ietf-quic-http-29, "1.1. Prior versions of HTTP"
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Robin has almost the intended reading.  One request/response at a time, in each direction.  So while you might send several requests in sequence before getting any responses back, each direction is always either in the middle of exactly one message, or between messages.

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From: QUIC <quic-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Julian Reschke
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To: Robin MARX <robin.marx@uhasselt.be>
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Subject: Re: draft-ietf-quic-http-29, "1.1. Prior versions of HTTP"

On 12.06.2020 15:20, Robin MARX wrote:
> Hello Julian,
>
> To me, the crux is in the "at a time", which I feel makes the 
> statement correct.
 > ...

Not really; if the server is not broken I can send multiple GET requests without having read any response yet.

Best regards, Julian