Re: H3 ALPN?

Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com> Tue, 27 April 2021 23:03 UTC

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From: Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 16:03:39 -0700
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Subject: Re: H3 ALPN?
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QUIC, sorry the confusion. The original message in this thread included
HTTPbis, and you should reply to that one to keep everyone in the loop.

On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 3:59 PM Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com> wrote:

> Damn it, wrong http
>
> On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 3:40 PM Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> In the quicdev slack channel today, we realized that we had a disconnect
>> on what ALPN to use in the interval between the QUIC RFCs publishing and
>> the HTTP/3 RFCs being ready (due to a MISREF with http-semantics, etc).
>>
>> It's lost in the slack archives now, but I *think* we had concluded that
>> once the QUIC RFCs ship the endpoints should use 0x00000001/h3, not h3-29
>> or h3-32, because the chance of something in http-semantics breaking
>> interoperability was nil. I personally don't really care how we converge,
>> as long as we converge.
>>
>> To summarize the choices, in the ~months between the RFCs, are endpoints
>> doing a QUIC version + ALPN of
>> 1) 0x00000001/h3 or
>> 2) 0x00000001/h3-xx
>>
>> Can we come to an agreement on this point?
>>
>> Martin
>>
>