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Praveen Balasubramanian <pravb@microsoft.com> Fri, 21 February 2020 21:08 UTC

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From: Praveen Balasubramanian <pravb@microsoft.com>
To: Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net>, "quic@ietf.org" <quic@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] I-D Action: draft-ietf-quic-transport-26.txt
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It makes sense to include any TP format change and publish draft-27 immediately. But independent of that I'd like the WG to declare the intended stable draft version. Maybe at the IETF 107 meeting?

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From: Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net> 
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:08 AM
To: Praveen Balasubramanian <pravb@microsoft.com>; quic@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] I-D Action: draft-ietf-quic-transport-26.txt


On 2/21/2020 8:57 AM, Christian Huitema wrote:
> On 2/21/2020 8:31 AM, Praveen Balasubramanian wrote:
>> Draft-26 just dropped with minor changes. The planning discussion in IETF 106 was to stabilize and settle on a draft version for six months or so to get deployments and data. It'd be nice for implementers to get some idea of what that version is supposed to be. I was assuming it'd be draft-25 but that's clearly not the case. Are there any more changes that are a must have for wide deployment? I think only major security issues or deployment blockers would qualify.
> There are  open 41 PRs, 15 of which are marked "design" . In 
> particular, PR #3169 did not make it into the draft. That PR would 
> change the format of transport parameters. There was a rough consensus 
> to adopt it in Zurich (I was in the rough). Since we don't see it in 
> draft-26, shall we conclude that it was abandoned? Or is "stabilizing 
> for 6 months" just one of those things that people say but don't really mean?

On the same topic, there is a poll in the implementers' Slack chat.
Results so far are 12 votes to "abandon draft-26 and release draft-27 immediately", 0 against. There seem to be little appetite to rev the implementations for minor changes, and a willingness to test the new transport parameter format asap.

-- Christian Huitema

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