Re: Privacy considerations of trace logging (was Re: New Version Notification for draft-kazuho-httpbis-selftrace-00.txt)

Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com> Sun, 15 August 2021 14:59 UTC

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From: Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 15:59:10 +0100
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Subject: Re: Privacy considerations of trace logging (was Re: New Version Notification for draft-kazuho-httpbis-selftrace-00.txt)
To: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
Cc: Robin MARX <robin.marx=40uhasselt.be@dmarc.ietf.org>, Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>, IETF QUIC WG <quic@ietf.org>, HTTP Working Group <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
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Agree with all your points Kazuho. This topic probably extends to toxic
telemetry more broadly, which is a mighty task. In the short term
establishing some common criteria had value for implementions and
deployments.

Cheers
Lucas

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