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Re: [Qlog] qlog in pcap-ng format

Robin MARX <robin.marx@uhasselt.be> Wed, 19 May 2021 11:49 UTC

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From: Robin MARX <robin.marx@uhasselt.be>
Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 13:49:07 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Qlog] qlog in pcap-ng format
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
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Hello Michael,

Sorry for the late reply, but gmail decided your mail belonged in my spam
folder for some unfathomable reason.

I must then admit my lack of knowledge on the PCAP-NG format and its
possibilities and support in e.g., open source libraries.
I've added a comment/TODO for this in the issue where we're tracking the
qlog serialization format at
https://github.com/quiclog/internet-drafts/issues/144#issuecomment-844023310
Any initial materials you might provide for this would be most welcome.

The question about what to do with the separate qlog mailing list now that
we're eyeing QUIC wg adoption will be escalated to the ADs. Thanks for
mentioning this.

With best regards,
Robin



On Mon, 10 May 2021 at 16:45, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
wrote:

>
> Robin MARX <robin.marx@uhasselt.be> wrote:
>     > I agree there is significant overlap between PCAP and qlog
> conceptually
>     > (though I did not know pcap was actually considered for adoption at
> the
>     > IETF).
>
> Please note that pcap (legacy) is intended as Informational.
> PCAP-NG (I hate "NG" for a format that is now 10 years old!), is intended
> as
> Standards Track.
>
>     > However, from my understanding, the PCAP format is strongly oriented
>
> Your understanding is accurate for PCAP, but not for PCAP-NG.
> If I had a do-over, PCAP-NG would have been pure-CBOR.
>
>     > Finally, I've added the QUIC wg in CC, as that's where most of the
>     > work/discussion will likely be done in the future.
>
> Then, I suggest maybe the qlog ML should get killed, if you want discussion
> on the QUIC list.
>
> --
> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>   . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting )
>            Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide
>
>
>
>
>

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